30422304. Lord
Roger de Carmynow & 30422305. Lady Johanna de Dinham
~1260, Roger
de Carmynou born in Cornwall, England, s/o 60844608. Roger
Carmynow & 60844609. Sara Hornicote.
~1265, Joan
born in England, d/o 30422336. Lord Oliver de Dyneham & 30422337. Isolda de Cardinham.
[––Joan––]
Joan 1st
married to the father of Matthew de Penfern. (S) See 5/10/1321. [The manor of
Kennal belonged, in the reign of Edward II., to Matthew Penfern, afterwards to
the Carminows. (S) Magna Britannia, V3, 1814, Cornwall, St. Sampson –
Stratton.]
11/16/1272,
Edward I succeeded Henry III as King of England.
Aft. 1276,
Roger’s father died.
[––Roger & Joan––]
~1281, Roger
married Joan.
9/10/1290, Release
of rent of mill-leat by Edmund, Earl of Cornwall to Roger de Carminho of his
mill of Carminho. (S) UKNA.
~1293, Roger
married his daughter Joan to William de Walesbraus [Whalesboro - age 5.]
3/29/1296,
Quitclaim. John Ingeriam de Kenel to Sir Roger de Carmynou. Consideration: 4
marks of silver. all right in his land of Kenel, in buildings, gardens, boods,
meadows, pastures, ways, … (S) UKNA.
1296, Roger
de Carminow sought to recover against Richard de Ditchen a messuage, 80 acres
of land and 10 acres of wood. (S) The Cartulary of Launceston Priory, 1987.
1297,
Dominus Rogerus de Carminow, knight, summoned to attend King Edward I.
1300, Roger
knight of the shire for Cornwall.
10/5/1300 at
Wyk, Cornwall, John de Reskemmer to deliver seisin to Roger, lord of Kaermenou,
of all the lands and tenements of Chywarlo, Cleys, Hendre, Bronewycmur,
Bronewicbyghan, and Chyenwoen, which tenements and lands he had from the said
Roger in exchange for the lands of Trevagecmur Trevagecbyghan, Tregelly bighan,
Brehelg, Lannerg, Chygwen, and Wyk. (S) UKNA.
1301, Roger
de Carminow, called to reply to the King for his man’ of Wynyeton, said that
Richard, formerly E. of Cornw., gave to a certain Gervaise de Hornyngcote, his
ancestor, the manor of Wynyton, Merthyn, and Tam’ton in exchange for the manor
of Bochym.
11/13/1301, IPM of Edmund, earl of Cornwall. Cornwall: … Hornicot.
5 fees held by Roger de Carbinhou. Tamerton, Wynyerton and Merthyn. 1/20 fee
held by the same Roger. (S) CIsPM. [Hornicot inherited from his mother.]
1302,
William Bottreux brought Writ of Wardship against Roger Carminow and demanded
William, the brother and heir of John de Whalesboro. Roger replied, ‘William
whilst your ward married our daughter’. [Nous vous dioms qe vivant Joh frere
Willame, e en vostre garde estcant, si fut Willame marie a nostre fille.]
1302, Assize roll: Sarra de Hornyacote mother of Roger de Carmynowe.
Aft. 1302, Roger’s mother died.
7/7/1307,
Edward II became king on the death of his father.
1308, Roger
died.
12/20/1308,
IPM of Roger de Carminow. Cornwall: Wynyenton and Merthyn. The manors, held,
together with the manor of Tamerton … Kenel. The hamlet … Carmino alias
Karmino. The hamlet … Oliver his son, aged 30 and more, is his next heir. (S)
CIsPM.
[––Joan––]
2/22/1309, Agreement
for assignment of dower. Oliver de Carmynou and Lady Joan who was wife of Roger
de Carmynou, knight, from the manors of Carmynou, Wynienton, Trezeued, Merthin,
Kenel, Eglosros, Trelewith, Dysard, Resker and Hornicote, and the advowsons of
the churches of Wyteston, Eglosros, Sanctus Rumon Maior and Sanctus Rumon Minor
in Tyrhard. (S) UKNA. [Seal showing arms of Carminow (a bend, without the label
of 3) and of Dinham (5 lozenges); 'Sig... Carminno'.]
6/9/1309,
Presentation of Roger son of Roger de Carmenou, … to the church of St. Stadian,
in the diocese of Exeter. (S) CPRs.
6/4/1320,
Licence for Oliver de Carmynou to grant … his reversion in the manors of
Merthyn, Wynyenton and kenel, held in chief as of the earldom of Cornwall …
which Joan, late the wife of Roger de Carmynou holds in dower of the inheritiance
of the said Oliver, … regrant the same to Oliver de Carmynou and Elizabeth his
wife … John, brother of said Oliver, … Richard brother of the same John, and
Mivan brother of the said Richard, … and failing issue to William Walebreus and
Joan his wife and the heirs of their bodies, … (S) CPRs.
By 1329,
Johanne de Kaermynaw died. (S) Parochial History of Cornwall, 1838, P231.
Children
of Roger and Johanna:
i. Sir Oliver Carminowe, born ~1285 in England.
[Johanna’s
father was likely the godfather of Oliver.]
2/2/1309, Order
to deliver to Oliver de Kaermino, son and heir of Roger de Kaermino, tenant in
chief, the lands late of his said father, he having done homage. (S) CFRs.
Oliver
married Isould, d/o Reynold Ferrers [2 daughters].
Oliver,
sheriff of Cornwall, keeper of Launceston castle.
Oliver
married Elizabeth Pomeroy.
6/4/1320,
Licence for Oliver de Carmynou to grant … his reversion in the manors of
Merthyn, Wynyenton and Kenel, … which Joan (mother of Oliver), late the wife of
Roger de Carmynou holds in dower of the inheritance of the said Oliver; …
failing such issue to John, brother of the said Oliver, … with successive
remainders to Richard brother of John (15211152), and Mivan brother of Richard,
and failing issue to William Walebreus and Joan (sister of Oliver) his wife and
the heirs of their bodies, with final remainder to the right heirs of the said
Oliver. By fine of 40s. (S) CPRs. [See next record.]
5/10/1321,
Between Oliver de Carmenou (eldest s/o Joan) & Elizabeth his wife,
claimants, … the said tenements & advowson which Joan (30422305) who was
the wife of Roger de Carmenou held in dower … [reversions to multiple persons]
… to William Walebreus & Joan (60841837) his wife & the heirs of their
bodies. … there being present Joan who was the wife of Roger de Carmenou, ….
(S) Devon & Cornwall Rec. Soc., V1, Rowe, 1914, P269, no.467.
Aft.
8/31/1335, Oliver died; his heir his son Roger (b.aft.1321) [by Elizabeth].
ii. Roger de Carminou, born ? in England.
Bef. 8/1320,
Roger died leaving his brother Oliver as his heir.
iii. John Carminou (15211152), born ~1290 in Cornwall,
England.
iv. Joan Carminou (60841837), born ~1293 in
England.
v. Richard de Carminou, born ? in England.
vi. Mivan Carminou, born ? in England.
